And this point-- that it is culture rather than acoustics-- was brought home to me once in a discussion with a student here at Yale who said to me, "Yeah, but over there at the Slifka Center, we Jews have lots of happy melodies and they are all in minor--what you would call minor."

还有一点,大小调是文化差异,而非声学,有个耶鲁的学生上我家里去讨论,他对我说,哈,就在这个斯利夫卡中心,我们犹太人有很多快乐的旋律,都是小调,就是你说的那种小调

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In fact, I used to go to church in Harlem. And it was... We would walk to and from church.

事实上，我过去经常去哈莱姆的教堂。它……我们会从家里步行到教堂，然后再从教堂步行回家。

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