and he started with the position that you ought to cut taxes but only where you can find offsetting cuts and government spending.

最开始，他的观点是,减税是正道,但必须先想到如何补偿这部分损失,如何削减财政支出。

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But if you are going to make them permanent ? where are you gonna cut spending?

然而，一旦决定长期减税,又如何才能削减财政支出呢？

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I think it's important to get the spending cut too It's very...it's much more difficult to work on the spending in fact but that's essential.

我觉得，同时还应当削减财政支出呢,尽管事实上这个更难做到,但至少这一点至关重要。

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And he ended with the position that the only way to put pressure on spending was by cutting taxes I never heard him use the phrase " but he subscribed to the starve-the-beast thesis.

到最后，他倒过来了,说，要想给政府施压，来削减财政支出,减税是必由之路,他倒是没有明确说,但依我看，他用的这招叫“把帽子扔过墙去。

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.. And I begin by remembering... this is the way I begin most of my economic thoughts ...a conversation I had with Milton Friedman And Milton started with the position, first of all, what he wanted to do was decrease government spending.

我记得。,我习惯这么思考经济问题了,我记得曾和米尔顿·弗里德曼谈过一次话,刚开始，米尔顿的立场是，有一点先说明，他其实是希望,政府削减财政支出的。

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Background, George W. Bush increased spending but cut taxes.

背景知识，乔治·W·布什增加了财政支出,同时削减了税率。

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