Now this is a debate that fits into the same category, as far as I'm concerned, as the one between the elder and the Second Brother.

此争论与，在我看来,与《科玛斯》中兄弟俩的那场争论是同一类的。

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68a And at 368a, he cites a line of poetry, you'll remember, written about them for their distinction in battle, they have been in war, they have been tested in war obviously.

而在本书，他引了一行诗，各位将记得，关他兄弟俩在战争中的差异，他们曾参战，他们明显地曾受过战争的检测。

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Now to the extent that this discussion is actually about the virginity of the Second Brother and the Elder Brother's sister, it seems, I think, to border on the ridiculous; but the debate, I think, we have to take seriously.

后来这兄弟俩谈论的对象,转到了自己的妹妹的贞洁的时候，就显得有点愚蠢了;,但我觉得这段辩论应当好好研究。

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