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Most of us like most of you earlier, find ourselves instinctively taking the side of Socrates against the city of Athens.
我们大部份，就像稍前的调查,自觉本能地选择支持,苏格拉底对抗雅典城；
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The Republic asks us, what would a city be like if it were ruled by Socrates or someone like him?
理想国》要我们考虑，城邦的面貌,如果它是由苏格拉底或像他的人所统治？
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Because even if the soul is invisible, 5 if, nonetheless, contrary to what Socrates was claiming, invisible things can be destroyed, then maybe the invisible soul can be destroyed as well.
因为即使灵魂是无形的5,像第五点所说的那样,但是和苏格拉底的观点相反的是，无形的东西可以毁灭，那无形的灵魂,也许同样可以毁灭。
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Yeah, this is not a bad time for me to remind you that in one of Plato's dialogues, Socrates says the Greeks sit like frogs around a pond and that pond is the Aegean Sea.
下面引用一下,柏拉图记录的一段对话,苏格拉底说希腊地形,就像一群青蛙围着一个池塘,而那池塘就是爱琴海
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Glaucon Or Socrates and Glaucon, who hope to rule ? by the powers of reason, speech, and argument?
或像苏格拉底和，所希望,统治要视理性，演说及辩论的力道而定？
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The gentleman may lack the speculative intelligence of a Socrates but he will possess that quality of practical rationality of practical judgment necessary for the administration of affairs.
绅士可能缺少,像苏格拉底般的思索智慧,但他却拥有,实际理性的本质,拥有行政事务所需的,实际判断力。
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To tolerate Socrates would be to say to him that we care little for our way of life and that we are willing to let you challenge it and impugn it every day.
若是容忍苏格拉底,就像在对他说,我们不是很在意我们的生活方式,我们愿意让你提出挑战并日日进行抨击。
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But rather unlike Socrates, rather in staying to drink the hemlock, Aristotle left Athens and was reported to have said he did not wish to see the Athenians sin against philosophy for a second time.
但不像苏格拉底，没有留下来喝毒芹，亚里士多德离开了雅典,据称还曾说过,不愿再次看到雅典人,反对哲学的罪孽。
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And we've all been in this, where we know that it's shameful to look at this, just drive on, as Socrates would say " "mind your own business," and yet at the same time we feel, even against our will, compelled to look and think about that.
而我们都经历过这码子事，我们都明白那是不道德的人才看，我们本应继续驶离，就像苏格拉底会说的,“管好你自己的事“,但同时我们就算是违意，仍不得不看，并满脑子想着要看。
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