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In any private cooperation, there is a final line between what is good for management and what is good for shareholders.
在任何一个私人企业里，总是有一条底线划分,怎样对管理有利,怎样对股东有利。
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I think if, you know, everyone sort of thinks about, I don't know, all being an entrepreneur. But if you're not,
我觉得，如果每个人都有做企业家的想法。
但是你如果不这样想，
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We don't care at all about corporations-- we should make that clear-- except as they contribute to individual welfare.
我们完全不关心企业-,我们应该明确这一点-,除非它们对个人福利有贡献。
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Mark has a skill which, a number of skills, which one rarely sees in an entrepreneur no matter what the age is.
马克有一些技巧，很难在其他企业家身上,发现这种特质。
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If you run a business, how would you answer them? It's challenging.
如果你也经营一个企业，会怎么回答，有挑战性。
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Both firms have an incentive to undercut the other firm, driving down profits for both.
每个企业都有削弱对手的动机,最后他们的利润都下降了
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You said that you work here. What kind of businesses are around here?
你说你在这儿工作。这周围都有哪些类型的企业呢？
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It's likely to increase, but there is more competition from India business India government has been a little more protective of India business They still have rules about which areas foreign investment can come in which areas they cannot come in.
也许机遇是有很多，但印度企业面临激烈的竞争,而印度政府又一直,有点过于保护本土企业,政府现在还有规定哪些领域,可以引进外资,哪些领域不准引进外资。
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Mr. Carl Icahn: Okay Student: Mr. Icahn, why does the United States have ? bad corporate governance ? and which countries have better models?
卡尔·伊坎先生：好的,学生：伊坎先生，为什么美国的,企业管理这么糟糕,哪个国家有好点的企业经营模范呢？
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Do you know we have, in the U.S., a corporate profits tax?
你们知道在美国有,企业所得税吗
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Mr. Carl Icahn: Alright, we have bad corporate governance it's evolved into this. I don't think that Washington understands how bad it is; nobody's really focused on it.
卡尔·伊坎先生：，嗯，我们的企业管理是很糟糕,这种情况也是逐渐发展而成的，我觉得华盛顿的人,并不知道企业管理的有多糟糕，并没有人太注意这个。
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So here's the other issue, there's a price in this market, we might want to think of as the kind of focal price as an interesting price, and that's the price at which, the price I would choose were I the monopolist.
另外一个问题是,市场中有一个价格,可以理解为一种焦点价格,一个有趣的价格,这个价格是,我作为垄断企业时所选择的价格
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What I looked at--and I have this on the website, I have a chart showing corporate profits taxes paid, as a fraction of corporate profits for the United States since 1929.
就我所观察...关于这点在网站上有说明,我有个图表展示了自从1929年以来,实缴企业所得税占公司利润的百分率
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Your banker understands that your business can't pay the money back and that the bank has a reputation in the community of helping business people, so they won't ask for the money even though it's a short-term loan that they made to you.
他会理解,你的公司可能无法还钱,在业界里银行向来,有帮助企业家的美名,所以他们不会要求你还钱,即使他们借给你的是短期贷款
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There were probably a number of firms that, over that ten-year period, went out of business.
在这10年间,可能有很多企业已经破产
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So firms did use to write that kind of agreements, but still something went wrong.
当时的企业纷纷签订了这样的协议,但仍然有问题出现
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The thing about corporate America--few people that go to college, like where you are now, and most people in America don't realize how poorly most of our companies are run in this country, with many exceptions.
美国企业的问题是--没有什么人,上过大学，没人去过像你们现在所在的地方，很多在美国的人怀揣着对美国企业的希望,并没有意识到大多数我们的企业，经营的有多糟糕。
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