So they're drinking and they're talking, and both of these are supposed to go on at the same time.

所以他们边喝酒边讨论,二者应该是同时进行的

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They do, but they also have an allegiance to their families and to themselves, which, in Homer, tend to predominate,and yet there is a sense in which the conflict is very real.

确实是的,但是他们也忠于他们的家庭,以及他们自己,在荷马史诗中后二者占了主导地位,然而,在这之间的确有着真实的冲突

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