One possible explanation, the dualist, that's the ghost of your mother, immaterial soul that she is, communicating to you while you're asleep.

一个可能的解释,二元论者会说,那是你妈妈的鬼魂,她是一个非物质的灵魂,在你睡觉的时候跟你交流

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I don't feel I've got any sort of account going here as to how consciousness works, even if I become a dualist.

我觉得就算我是一个二元论者,我也还是不懂这番对于意识的解释

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More specifically, dualists like Descartes struggle to explain how a physical body connects to an immaterial soul.

更进一步,像笛卡尔一样的二元论者努力想要解释,生理客体是如何与无形心灵相联系的

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So that's I think the position that we ought to ascribe to the dualist.

所以我认为,这应归入二元论者的立场

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Now, I think the best response on the part of the dualist to this reply is to distinguish two aspects of feelings, two aspects of emotions.

现在,我认为二元论者对这一答复的,最好回应,就是区分感受的两方面,情绪的两个方面

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And yet for all that dualists could consistently say, still same soul as not the key to personal identity, same personality is the key to personal identity.

所有的二元论者都可以坚持认为,同样的灵魂并非,人格同一性的关键，同样的人格,才是人格同一性的关键。

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That's the attraction, at least one of the attractions, of the dualist view.

这就是吸引人的地方,至少是众多吸引人地方中的一处,就二元论者的观点而言

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And this is no surprise if what we are is the workings of our physical brains, but it is extremely difficult to explain if one is a dualist.

如果我们的本质就是生理大脑的活动,那这也就没什么可惊奇的,但对于二元论者来说,解释这些却是非常困难的

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Some fact about us that calls out for explanation, and the claim on the part of the dualists was, we couldn't explain it without appealing to a soul.

有些关于我们的事实需要解释,而二元论者的主张是,如果不诉诸灵魂,我们就无法解释这些

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The dualist can explain that by appealing to ghosts and the like.

二元论者可以诉诸鬼魂之类的来解释

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That's something physicalist or dualist can say but and this is not of--to make a good promise they offered earlier, it's not the only view available to physicalists, or for that matter dualists.

物理主义学者或二元论者都可认同,这个观点，但如同他们之前提到的,这并不是物理主义学者眼中,唯一存在的理论，二元论者也是如此。

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If the dualist were to start offering us some elaborate theory of consciousness, "Well, there's these sorts of soul structures, and those sorts of soul structures, and these create these sensations and those create those sensations.

如果二元论者试图,为我们提供一个详尽的意识理论学说,你看,这是灵魂的什么什么结构,那是灵魂的什么什么结构,这些产生了这种感觉,那些产生了那种感觉

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Even if we are dualists, as we've noticed before even if the soul is something different from the body it could still be the case, logically speaking, that if the body gets destroyed the soul gets destroyed as well.

就像以前一样,即使我们是二元论者,认为灵魂是不同于肉体的,但从逻辑上来说,仍然可能出现,假如肉体死去,灵魂也随之消亡的情况

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So unlike those modern dualists who think we need to appeal to something immaterial in order to explain bodily sensations, Socrates thinks no, no, the body takes care of all the bodily sensations, all the desirings and the wantings and the emotions and the feelings and the cravings.

而现代的二元论者,认为需要用非物质的东西,来解释肉体上的感觉,但苏格拉底不这么想,他认为肉体负责所有的肉体上的感觉,所有的欲望,需求,感情,感觉和渴望

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Maybe when these physical processes, B1 through Bn, take place, they set into motion...remember, after all we're interactionist dualists.

也许当这些物理过程发生时,也就是从B1到Bn,它们开始运转,要记住,毕竟我们是心物交互的二元论者

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