We make software; we make technology; we're innovative ,but so are they So, what we really have to do is become a lot more productive and we have to make our companies a lot more competitive. Today, I feel we're losing that edge.

我们生产软件；发展工业技术;,我们有创新能力，但他们也有,所以，我们现在必须要做的就是提高生产效率,我们必须提高我国公司的竞争力,现在，我觉得在这方面我们正在丧失竞争优势。

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because you have to do... like, you learn a lot of stuff by doing that too,

因为你必须……做那个你也要学很多东西。

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