And this belief that's called Calvinist predestination is really at the heart of mainstream English Puritanism at this point.
这种叫做加尔文宿命论的观点,与主流英国清教主义相一致。
But it's not a very popular because I think people in this country,
但是那不会是主流观点,因为我想这个国家的人,
Now it's--I think it's still the dominant academic view, but there's a big debate and there are partisans on both sides.
现在,这种观点-我认为仍然是主流的学术观点,但是对此学术界也存在激烈的争论,并且双方都有自己的阵营。
What you'll hear from me is essentially that consensus point of view.
我将和你们讲的,是主流观点中最主要的
The mainstream view is now a little bit more interesting.
现在的主流观点更为有趣。
The notion that this is about the Mycenaean world is an outlier, and then I would say the largest consensus is something like Finley's consensus, but people verging in both directions from that.
那些认为这是关于,迈锡尼时期的观点的人也是无知的,我想芬利的观点大概是最主流的,但是人们似乎理解地有些极端
With those warnings, let me tell you sort of what I think most people think about this.
这些是你们要注意的,我来说说当今社会上的主流观点
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