Right. Well, I think that pluralism properly understood has respect for people with the secular position, with the Christian position.

是的，我认为经合理理解的多元主义,尊重持世俗立场的人们，尊重持基督教立场的人们。

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And speaking in turn to the arden secularists to say religion should have no part in the White House.

再说到艺术世俗主义者,他们说白宫不应该涉及宗教。

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And there are other secularists who said, religion and state should be completely separated.

还有另外一些世俗主义者说，政教应该彻底分离。

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