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just in a sense that when she was taking, say, I don't know, class like C.C., which is Contemporary Civilization, or Lit. Hum.,
就好像她在上论当代文明，或人类文学这样的课程时，我不太清楚，
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People who have never known of civil society; people who have never known of a world with polis, well, of course,they would do something stupid like that.
希腊人认为不知道文明社会的人,也不会知道城邦的世界,所以才会做出如此愚蠢的行为
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In fact, we can never be fully free of the fear and of the anxiety and uncertainty of the state of nature, even within to some degree of fully constituted civil society.
实际上，我们完全可以,脱离恐惧焦虑和,对自然状态的不确定,甚至在一定程度上可以摆脱完全文明的社会。
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To put untrammeled reasons and individual freedom at the center of a civilization is to live with the conflict, the turmoil, the instability, and the uncertainty that these things create.
把自由理性和个人自由置于,文明的中心就会伴随着冲突与矛盾,混乱和不安定,以及一些其他的不良影响
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No, they weren't like that, the Greeks were ahead of them and it's evident that they borrowed stuff from the Greeks in every element of life, although it didn't shape their lives in a potent, fundamental way.
不,他们不是文明的,希腊人比他们先进,也有证据表明,他们从希腊人那里学习了生活中的各种东西,虽然这些并未从根本上,有力地改变他们的生活
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In other words, they couldn't just have named towns that used to be Mycenaean, but were still around, so that's why they knew them. No, some towns had disappeared, but the names of those towns show up in the catalog of ships.
换句话说,诗人们仅仅利用,现存的迈锡尼文明城镇的名字,是不可能列出名单的,有些城镇消失了,但它们的名字却出现在《船舶名录》中
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What oriental? That means mainly the Tigris and Euphrates, Mesopotamia, Syria,all those older civilizations and much more advanced civilizations than the Greek.
哪个东方,这主要指底格里斯河和,幼发拉底河文明,美索不达米亚文明,以及叙利亚文明等这些旧文明,它们都比希腊先进的多
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The real sort of typical home of the kinds of things were talking about is Mesopotamia, modern Iraq, the Tigress, Euphrates Valley, which spread out beyond Iraq and went up into Syria and neighboring places.
我们所讨论的这些旧文明中的典型大约,起源于美索不达米亚,即现在的伊拉克,在底格里斯河,幼发拉底河流域,其范围超过了伊拉克,还包括叙利亚以及邻近地区
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Many a scholar are very reluctant to admit that there's any Mycenaean stuff here, although they cannot fail to concede that some of the physical implements that are found at Mycenaean sites are precisely like what Homer says.
许多学者不愿承认,存在于迈锡尼文明时期的文物,尽管他们勉强同意,在迈锡尼文明遗址中发现的文物,和荷马描述的非常接近
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