The second one, I guess, involves an active choice of pushing a person down which I guess that person himself would otherwise not have been involved in the situation at all.

我认为第二种情况，牵涉到主动选择推人,而被推的这个人,本来跟这事件一点关系都没有。

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And I realize I'm moving over this very quickly, ? but is Thrasymachus wrong to believe that?

我知道我在这一点上推得很快，但，Thrasymachus，那么相信真的错了吗？

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