Krishnamurti: Memory is the bag.
克：记忆就是袋子。
I now present him to you - Mr Krishnamurti.
现在我将他-克里希那穆提先生展现给你。
Krishnamurti: Do not read them like a novel.
克：不要像读小说那样读他们。
Krishnamurti: There is this fact of disorder.
克：存在着失序这个事实。
Krishnamurti: Then there is a serious dialogue.
克：那么就会有一场严肃的对话。
Krishnamurti: Does this really need explaining?
克：这真的需要解释吗？
Krishnamurti: We cannot talk of pure perception.
克：我们不能谈论纯粹的感受。
Krishnamurti: So what are we concerned with now?
克：那我们现在关注的是什么？
Krishnamurti: Sir, this is an important question.
克：先生，这是个很重要的问题。
Krishnamurti: But that is the act of intelligence.
克：但那是一个智慧的行为。
Krishnamurti: The whole of life is in each moment.
克：整个生命都在当下的每一刻中。
Krishnamurti: Sirs, what do we mean by livelihood?
克：先生们，我们指的生计是什么？
Krishnamurti: Then do you see how far we have come?
克：那你有没有看到我们走了多远？
Krishnamurti: in that perception is there ugliness?
克：在那种觉察中有丑陋吗？
Krishnamurti: I guess you have some questions, right?
克：我猜你有些问题要问，对么？
I know the Buddha was right, so Krishnamurti is wrong.
我知道佛陀是对的，因此克里希那穆提是错的。
Krishnamurti: it is a form of insensitivity, is it not?
克：这就是不敏感的一种表现，不是吗？
Krishnamurti: We are using the word to describe all this.
克：我们正在用文字描述所有这些东西。
Krishnamurti: May I ask why anyone should follow another?
克：我可以问问为什么一个人要追随别人吗？
Krishnamurti: Yes. Knowledge only makes our mentality dull.
克：是的，知识只能使我们的心迟钝。
Later, I happened to see a book on Krishnamurti written by him.
后来，我偶然看到一本他写的关于克的书。
Krishnamurti: Sorry, I made you wait. I was doing some Hatha Yoga.
克里希纳穆提：抱歉，让你久等了。我刚才在做哈达瑜伽。
I can imagine why Krishnamurti so insisted on the point just quoted.
我可以想象为什么克如此强调刚才引用的那点。
Krishnamurti: every movement of thought every action demands energy.
克：思想的每个运动，每个活动都需要能量。
Krishnamurti: For the first time, quite Sir. The word God is not God.
克：第一次，说得很对，先生。上帝这个词不是上帝本身。
Krishnamurti: you can see That in action, but you can't talk about it.
克：你能在行动中看到“它”，但是你无法去谈论它。
Krishnamurti: You are introducing the word "wicked", which I never used.
克：你引入了“邪恶的”这个词汇，我从未使用它。
Krishnamurti: Can you separate the two, action and thought, from existence?
克：你能把行为和思想这两者与存在分开吗？
Krishnamurti: It is not your particular mind in which there are hidden things.
克：并不是你那个特别的头脑里才会有隐藏的东西。
Krishnamurti: But you, who are the observer, are the past trying to look at itself.
克：但是，你作为观察者，你就是那个试图去观察自身的过去。
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