伟福：这很有意思，你在15年前发现的一种用来思考生产问题的有效方式，今天对你仍然有效，你觉得奇怪吗？
DW: It's interesting that a way of thinking about production problems that you found useful 15 years ago you still find useful today. Does that surprise you?
伟福：你曾负责在海军陆战队实施一个TOC项目，是吗？
DW: You were responsible for implementing a TOC-based program in the Marine Corps?
伟福：你曾负责在海军陆战队实施一个TOC项目，是吗？
DW: You were responsible for implementing a TOC-based program in the Marine Corps?
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