Some didn't doubt Flowers and Winkelman could pull it off.

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This is not a story about David Jonathan Winkelman.

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On television on Tuesday morning, Flowers and Mark Winkelman , who was named chairman of Refco, insisted they planned to resuscitate the firm and possibly make a bid to buy Refco's securities-brokerage division.

FORBES: The Vultures Are Circling

The speed limit on open sections of the road varies between 45 and 65 miles per hour, but drivers routinely travel at 85 miles per hour through the mining lands between the towns of Winkelman and Oracle.

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