Declan Kidney described the get-together as an opportunity to "set some foundations ahead of what is going to be an important November for us".

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And my hope is, is that this is just the beginning of your commitment to what is going to be a tough road ahead over the next 18 months.

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"But hopefully the Welsh government will realise that there are no pollution risks or other issues which should stop this going ahead, which is what the councillors felt after they came here on a site visit, " he said.

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When it comes to their own businesses, they look a long time ahead, thinking of what the business is going to be like 5 to 10 years from now.

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Looking ahead, the company expects to see margins contract further in the next quarter as it looks to launch a number of lower margin new products ahead of the holiday season in what is going to be the broadest product refresh cycle in its history.

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So we are beginning to get to really what is going on, and that is not to say, whoopee, everybody lies about sex and we can go ahead and do that.

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