And they are -- both are holding veto powers at the United Nations.
Both have veto powers, but opted to abstain from the March resolution.
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The MRC depends on consensus, and its members have no veto powers.
Under the German proposal, a budget commissioner would have veto powers over Greek budgetary measures if they were not in line with targets set by international lenders.
Yet Iraq's ayatollahs have, so far, been saying that they will not be demanding the same anti-democratic veto powers for the clergy as their Iranian brethren have doggedly insisted on keeping.
He is also armed with strong planning approval and veto powers that hand him a direct say over which projects are built and what physical shape the city will take over the next four years.
Despite the non-binding nature of the proposed wording, it soon became apparent that Russia and China - both veto powers - would block it and that other countries on the council, including India also opposed it.
Prime Minister David Cameron's "veto" prevented powers from being relinquished from London to Brussels.
If the Commons were to remain with its current electoral system, and if the devolved assemblies turned out not to be as powerful as is often assumed, then it might well make sense to increase the power of the Lords, adding veto and initiative powers to its current ability only to revise and delay.
The bill will also give the chancellor powers to veto decisions made by the Bank of England when dealing with bank bailouts.
It will have powers to veto legislation with a two-thirds majority, approve the budget and appoint new ministers in the not unlikely event of their death.
But the attorney general has used his powers to veto publication in exceptional cases, saying he had reached his decision having "taken account of the views of the cabinet, former ministers and the information commissioner".
LDP-led coalition loses its majority in the upper house, as was expected at least until Mr Koizumi took over, such an outcome would make the business of governing Japan nearly impossible: the upper house, though not as influential as the lower house, has extensive powers of veto.
Is it conceivable that the SNP could exercise a veto over the transfer of new tax powers to Holyrood?
The accountability of the Bank of England governor, who gains sweeping new powers under the bill, would be enhanced were Parliament to have a veto on the his or her appointment, he said.
EU's powers may be modest compared with the federalists' wish-list, and countries retain a veto in over 40 policy areas, against some 153 provisions to be decided by majority vote.
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