But the band that influenced groups ranging from Led Zeppelin to The Pretenders was no joke.
Marr left The Smiths in 1987 and later worked with the likes of The Pretenders and The The.
They will follow true leaders, and not trust, nor follow the pretenders.
Since the advent of professionalism, the gap has been getting closer and now it is England who are the world champions, the All Blacks who are the pretenders.
This time, Mr Frist and all the other pretenders to the throne in 2008 are freer to define themselves.
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Especially now that the more entertaining pretenders have been drummed from the Republican field.
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The new young pretenders of aviation are people such as Richard Branson of Virgin Atlantic and Herb Kelleher of Southwest, neither of whom can see a member of his staff without hugging him or her.
That Mark Zuckerberg made it happen versus any other pretenders to the throne of digital dominance is, if nothing else, a great branding story.
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As Palm and then HP found to their cost with WebOS (we could very easily put OpenWebOS into this list of pretenders to the throne), as Blackberry found with the PlayBook, and as even Microsoft has confronted with Windows Phone.
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Indeed, to the extent that radical Islam grew stronger during this encounter, it was not the Sunni zealots of al-Qaeda who benefited but their rival pretenders to leadership of the Muslim world: notably the Shia leaders of Iran and, after the 33-day war with Israel in 2006, Iran's Hizbullah co-religionists in Lebanon.
With Chambers already on the Turin plane, it was left to Britain's young pretenders to scrap it out for the remaining two 60m places, though Tyrone Edgar is almost certain to be absent after tearing a hamstring in the warm-up.
There are many contenders, and maybe a few pretenders, for the throne.
Several other factions face similar, if non-violent, feuds: no fewer than 11 pretenders lay claim to the chairmanship of the featherweight New Young Egypt Party.
The other new platforms are more pretenders than contenders.
It is known that Henry became highly perturbed throughout his reign whenever (as happened regularly) pretenders appeared, claiming to be the princes.
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Intel was able to see off earlier pretenders to its throne by increasing the performance of its Pentium chips, and by exploiting its economies of scale as market leader.
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