So they asked him to address the nation on Christmas.

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Afterward, as they were drinking Cognac, the judge asked him what he found so funny.

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But I insisted and eventually after I had asked them so many times, they gave in and allowed me to see him, but just his face, nothing more.

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And also the same thing occurred -- (laughter) -- so people were walking by and they didn't help him, even when he asked for help.

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