And he and his early compatriots came upon the trick of using the OEX options premiums as a rough way to figure out where the market might be headed.

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But LB was tuned in to rough grunts well enough to figure out which food to look for.

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And though his sharp suits and cosmopolitan approach may charm outsiders, he cuts an awkward figure in the rough-and-tumble of the townships.

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But when you know that other people are trying to figure out what your rough grunt means, you've got a conversation.

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"That's a really rough number, I'm getting that figure from firefighters, we don't know yet, " he said.

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It's one thing to figure out why someone else is making a rough grunt.

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