• We have tools to do that, but that doesn't mean sweeping up the kids who are on the street, you know, taking all of the risk being there - put there by the gang leaders to be shot at, to be arrested, to funnel the money to them - those kids are as much victims of the gangs as innocent bystanders are.

    NPR: Pick 'Em Up, Lock 'Em Up: Getting Tough On Gangs

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