Excerpts of an English-version of the full Perle interview with Der Spiegel are attached.
It was led by former Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy Richard Perle.
Mr. Perle has recently reported, however, that he was not at the White House that day.
Richard Perle, former Chairman, Defense Policy Board, former Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Policy.
Mr. RICHARD PERLE (Former Pentagon Official): I don't think there is going to be a dramatic shift.
Mr. PERLE: I don't think it matters much in terms of what happens on the ground in Iraq.
George Bush has been accused of letting his foreign policy be steered by super-hawks such as Mr Perle.
Often, Mr Perle and Mr Frum allege, State represents the world to America instead of America to the world.
Panorama has broadcast a special global interactive programme with a special international panel including Richard Perle and Edith Cresson.
In any event, Mr. Perle says that nothing like that exchange ever occurred.
Among the many high points of this symposium was a luncheon address by former Assistant Secretary of Defense Richard Perle.
Mr. Tenet was asked on television this week about Mr. Perle's refutation.
Mr. RICHARD PERLE: I think we're beyond the point now where one can talk in terms of a benign vision of the outcome, sadly.
Me Perle defended Mr Bush, "the characterisation of the Bush administration is fundamentally wrong", he urged, "he was not a cowboy, he was not trigger happy".
From August 1983 until November 1987, Mr. Gaffney was the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Nuclear Forces and Arms Control Policy under Assistant Secretary Richard Perle.
Among them was Richard Perle, known as the "prince of darkness" in the Reagan-era arms race, who has been reborn as the chairman of the defence policy board.
Does the name Perle Mesta strike a bell with anyone?
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Mr Perle, a Reagan-era official, evidently has scores to settle.
Richard Perle, Assistant Secretary of Defense (International Security Policy).
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He went off on a tear, anathematizing Bush and Wolfowitz and Perle, but then he must have felt bad about avoiding the subject at hand because he came back to it, softening his tone.
Richard Perle, assistant defense secretary (international security policy).
The story is that Richard Perle, chairman of a Defense Department advisory board, was at the White House for an early-morning meeting on Sept. 12, 2001, even before Mr. Tenet arrived to brief the president.
Fortunately, an alarm about this prospect was published in yesterday's Wall Street Journal by the U.S. Senate's top authority on the subject, Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) and veteran national security practitioner, Richard Perle .
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