You can listen to the discussion and draw your own conclusions.

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"In a set of extraordinary buildings and spaces, people will be able to sit, climb, think, draw, listen, watch and tell stories themselves, " he added.

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Cliff House has been Cox's primary residence and refuge for the last eight years a quiet place to sleep, read, draw, listen to music and watch nature.

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Your job as citizens, you've taken an oath, is to understand, listen to the evidence that -- and he would draw with his hands in court a picture of the courtroom walls -- within these four walls.

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