But I think we need to sit down and say what can we do to actually drive this forward and open it up to small businesses and give them the ability to get finance and grow the business.

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What I need mainly are sitters, people to sit with Pete while Catrin and I can go out and do things.

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You going to sit back, maybe do a little barbecuing, looking over and say I need a tomato patch or something right there.

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