"I thought I hurt him a few times, " said Espino.
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Tackling is a big part of my game, but I did not set out to deliberately hurt him.
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It was really difficult to feel that straight away, and I hope that in time that doesn't hurt him by knowing that.
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"I would never think that anybody ... would hurt him, " Goreel told WGN.
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It worries me because I don't want him to do anything to hurt himself, and it worries me because encouraging self-harm is one of the most common things that genuine psychotic "voices" tell people.
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I'm aiming to sit a bit more on my punches to hurt him.
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"What will hurt him is the fact that he's not saying things like 'I have to watch both inflation and the unemployment rate, '" he adds.
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