Both Dr Brady and Dr Aguilar have tried to play ulama themselves, but Dr Aguilar says that, although some of his graduate students persevered for longer, the bruises he sustained from the heavy ball caused him quickly to abandon playing the game.
"It has been going on now for nine years, John Lewis have patiently persevered with a planning system that has rocked them back and forward, " he said.
After 24 one-day internationals, he is averaging less than 20, but the feeling is that youngsters have to be selected and then persevered with before they drop out of the sport altogether.