"I never endorse what I don't actually use, " he said later, when I asked him why he'd been so successful in business.

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I've never seen one minute of doubt in his mind, not one minute where he said 'I don't want to do this'.

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"Given all the politics and special interests, if we don't get it done this year, it may never get done, " he said.

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"I don't know if it will make me a millionaire but you never know, " he said.

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