Now he can not only podcast, but also listen to radio stations from all over the world.

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He can say listen, I went not only to the NAACP convention, but campaigned in black communities early on.

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He'll tell you he can do it -- (laughter) -- but don't listen to him.

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"You do the best but you get so close to stuff when you are recording it, you can't stand back and listen to it as other people will, " he said.

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