"I give it five more minutes, and then I leave, " one lensman grouses.

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Film stars aren't always the best judge of when it to call it a day, and you might fear the worst as Eastwood grouses about his pee in the first scene.

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K-J long ago dropped out of the main trade group, the Wine Institute, and Jackson grouses that if all the extended Gallo family ties are figured in, the clan accounts for most of U.S. wine production.

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Two grouses, however, do seem fundamental.

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