My granda had two cats that were mousers, a big one and a wee one.
My granda stopped at all the landings on the way up to get his breath back.
Granda said about me getting one but it was my da, he did not like them.
But my granda said it was all just toys, how in our family it was real boats.
Other guerrillas in Venezuela were Rodrigo Granda, considered the Farc's foreign minister, Timoleon Jimenez and German Briceno, Colombian officials said.
He was replaced on This Morning by Philip Schofield and Granda have said they are unlikely to rehire Leslie for his old job.
Mr Granda is described as the unofficial foreign minister for the Farc (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia), the country's main leftist rebel group.
After we got the mice that was what my granda said, Oh I should just have brought the cats, the cats would have gobbled them up.
Unidentified informants told Colombian police in December that Mr Granda was in Venezuela, and offered to hand him over or give information resulting in his capture, he said.
He said five Venezuelan National Guard officers and three police officers had been arrested on suspicion of aiding Mr Granda's abduction from Caracas in return for a reward from Colombia.
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