Mr Spencer also says religion is "difficult todefine and difficultto measure" - not unlike the feat of recording the lives of people in England and Wales.
However, the health minister, Earl Howe, feared the move would be "counter-productive" because the concept of integrated care was "difficult todefine" and risked being "too narrow" in some cases.
Even the great American research universities that have come closest to creating the core-and-cloud university of the future find it difficulttodefine the core and to manage relations with the cloud.