Like, I found this wonderful group of women, all on their 50s, very boisterous, I mean, hardcore Oprah fans, and were - had never caucused before, and now are open to doing it because of Oprah.
So it's a big commitment and it's a very small universe and that's why the campaigns have been working so hard not just to identify people who are likely to caucus and have caucused before, but the people who they can convince to go a caucus for the very first time.