"You don't have a better standard than that, " says Bruce Psaty, a safety researcher at the University of Washington.

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"We know it doesn't work, " says Bruce Psaty , a drug safety expert at University of Washington in Seattle.

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"This is the best data we have right now, " says Bruce Psaty, a drug safety expert at the University of Washington.

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"You just don't change a primary endpoint in a major important trial partway through, " says Bruce Psaty, a drug safety expert at the University of Washington.

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The FDA's side effect database is "a weak system" because it only picks up problems doctors or patients notice and report, says Bruce Psaty, a drug safety expert at the University of Washington.

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In an editorial in the New England Journal, two other veterans of the Vioxx controversy--Bruce Psaty of the University of Washington and Curt Furberg of Wake Forest University--write that there is no clear reason to prescribe Avandia at all now.

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In a separate New England Journal editorial, University of Washington epidemiologist Bruce Psaty and Wake Forest University's Curt Furberg are also harshly critical of Pfizer for not publicizing details until just a few weeks ago of another study that found hints of cardiovascular problems with Celebrex in 2000.

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