The two Lloyds executives threw weight behind Chancellor George Osborne's announcement earlier in the day that the forthcoming Banking Reform Bill would "electrify" the ring-fence, as recommended by the banking standards committee.
Neither Prof Martin nor Mr Miles draw explicit conclusions for fiscal policy: they are not among those who are openly calling for Mr Osborne to move to a Plan B (though I don't think Bill Martin would oppose it).
And Chancellor George Osborne and Treasury Minister Mark Hoban are before the Joint Committee on the Draft Financial Services Bill to discuss how to make us safe from a future banking crisis - that's at 3.45pm.