You go into the changing room and they've all got their headphones on listening to their own bit of music.
All the wineries are working together, they're all individual, they've all got great products and beautiful restaurants, coffee shops and hotels.
"They're tired, they're fed up and they've got low morale and I think they've probably heard it all before, " he said.
Well a few months ago they were saying there were going to be spending cuts and tax cuts now of course they've got all their shadow ministers promising to spend even more money.
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Sometimes it takes as much as 18 months David, I was up in yesterday and these people are just getting over the last flood 18 months ago, they've got all the work done and now they're back with these tragic circumstances.
And at a time when America needs all hands on deck, they've got the skills and the strength to help lead the way.
And then you've got this husband sitting there with three children, and they're all waiting to be fed, and I'd be like, 'Do it yourself.
We've got three kids and they all have the Thomas-Moore name, so it wasn't a big decision.
And the sort of debate I want to open up is to say, this is about reform, if we're going to improve our public services we've got to be first of all be honest about how good they are, and I think second we've really got to look at what works.
They've got it all, and this new Latitude E series presentation is no different.
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Because if we give a working man and woman in this country -- and first of all, we make sure they've got good jobs -- if we give them an opportunity, they're the most productive workers in the world.
They've got TV, and agents and gurus and all.
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And that's all they can do, they've got to really go up there with a lot of fight and intensity and, as you say, try and put the South Africans under pressure.
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They've all got to be resettled back into the community and the sort of, there are various stages of security which are needed for people, the last one being the one which is lowest which is the resettlement prison from which they go back into the community.
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"At the lowest tactical level they are very good, it's the bigger pieces now, ensuring that they've got the capability to service all their vehicles, and get the spares systems up and running, the logistics up and running, to keep what is a huge army on the road and in the fight, " he said.
"At the end of the day, it is all about the players, they've got stronger mentally and physically, " he told BBC Sport.
"It's about four hours and you've got all these desperate musicians trying to go for a fag and they don't want you to leave your seats and it's kind of not fun, " he explains.
"If they can make a go of it, all well and good, if sadly they can't, then we've got three options, " he said.
All the countries will be changing their entries between now and the show so they've still got time.
They should relook at all their prices, apologise to those people who've got these enormous premiums and cut their prices.
And then they set about proving that while they may be past their primes, they've still got something left after all.
"I've got Lucent, Cisco, Nortel and Sun all in my networking center, talking about what they want the Internet to look like, " he says.
"We've got some delicate work" ahead and it's important to include all Iraqi factions so they can feel they will have a stake in a new Iraq, Lieberman said.
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"There's a lot of goodwill there, and they've got a lot of good skills and a lot of desire and passion for the club, and we all want the best for the club, " he added.
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