But I notice that David Davis was very, very quiet when you put to him well the Conservatives actually proposing to cut a lot of Civil Service jobs.

BBC: Jack Straw MP. photo courtesy Jeff Overs

"You're expecting something evil, almost as if you are touching evil, but what you find is someone who is very well caught up in the prison administrative system and is actually quite tedious, " he said.

BBC: Myra Hindley

But I mean it was those sorts of arguments made so very forcibly and with the background of intelligence which actually as it were pushed you over the brink to say, well yes, we're prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt.

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