"You can take a kid who has never even considered going to college and, once they have this exposure, they might change their mind and say, 'Hey I can do this, ' " he said.

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"I was a kid from Oklahoma who never wanted to be a singer, but was told I could sing, " she said in a 1999 interview.

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"I was 7 or 8 years old and he said to my mom: 'I never met a kid this age who is so passionate and knows so much about football, '" Roseman said.

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He described Garry as a "great kid", who worked hard, loved football and had never been in trouble.

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Obama is like the smart kid in the class who talks too much: never says in a sentence what he can say in a paragraph.

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"You just never know how a kid is going to develop, " said Schmitz, who had Franklin competing in every stroke in most meets since she was a young girl.

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In a grubby T shirt, with a long ponytail and Coke-bottle glasses, Arnold, 51, looks like the nerdy kid who never grew up.

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