无论如何,我不需要告诉你们我对柏拉图的创新思想的看法,对吧?
Anyway, I don't need to tell you what I think about Plato's ideas about innovation, do I?
如果你们当中有谁想做更多的了解,我推荐去读柏拉图对话集,或者选修古代哲学课程。
Those of you who would like to know more about it, I recommend reading more Platonic dialogues or taking a class in ancient philosophy.
我找不到什么很好的原因来相信前提二,在我看来,柏拉图在对话录中,也没有给出任何令人信服的理由?
I can't see any good reason to believe premise two, and as far as I can see, Plato doesn't actually give us any reason to believe it in the dialogue.
我提出的反对观点并非是,柏拉图在斐多篇里提出的反对观点,但他确实提出了个不同的反对观点。
Now, the objection I've just raised is not the objection that Plato raised in the Phaedo, but he does raise a different objection.
实际上,我们握有,我马上就会与你们分享,柏拉图冗长的亲笔解说,为何他要撰写《理想国》。
In fact, we have, and I want to read to you in just a moment a lengthy transcript of Plato's own account of why he came to write the Republic.
恩,我用柏拉图的观点来思考爱情,有两段重要对话。
Yeah, I've thought about this love in terms of Plato, and this kind of two key dialogues you wanna.
我们研究了柏拉图关于,灵魂不朽的论证,到目前为止,我要说的是,我发现这些论证并不是很有说服力。
We've been looking at Plato's arguments for the immortality of the soul, and so far, I have to say I haven't found them very compelling arguments.
因为,毕竟柏拉图也没有说,这就是我明确相信的观点。
Because, after all, this isn't Plato saying, "Here's what I believe explicitly."
你的老师--我叫他Spa,引用了苏格拉底,柏拉图和亚里士多德名字的第一个字母--他将告诉坐在那里的每一个人。
Your mentor -- I'll call him Spa, using the first letters in the names Socrates, Plato and Aristotle -- tells everyone to sit.
我不知道你们当中有多少人,之前未曾读过柏拉图的作品,但是,还未拜读过柏拉图的同学们,我敢肯定你们会喜欢上他的
I don't know how many of you have not read any Plato before, but for those of you who haven't, I actually think you're in for a treat.
我想说这与你所提到过的,苏格拉底和柏拉图的说法有关系。
I want to mention how this relates to, you mentioned, I mean the speech by Socrates and Aristotle.
例外是柏拉图,我将授课的,也许要两节课,我会重新构建柏拉图中心理论,至少这部分理论是和我们的课相关的。
The exception is Plato, where I'll lecture, maybe two lectures, trying to reconstruct Plato's central arguments, at least the arguments relevant to our class.
但远未到一个题外话脚注,我认为这在柏拉图的时刻告诉我们什么巨大的东西是一个哲学家和哲学没有什么重要。
But far from being a footnote to a digression, I think this moment in Plato tells us something hugely important about what a philosopher is and what philosophy does.
笛卡尔的“我思”实际上是对柏拉图的“形态”的再现,加上了轻微的改变,思维的存在是因为我们在思考它而且不是在另一个宇宙。
Descarte's cogito is in fact a revisit of Plato's Forms, with a slight variation in which ideals exist because we think about them and not in another universe.
柏拉图:我关心的也是人类社会。
玛格丽特:我……给你带来了爸爸的《柏拉图》。我想你应该会喜欢。
Margaret: I've brought you Father's Plato. I thought that you might like it.
这也是我喜欢教的一门课;,我通常教从柏拉图到T。S。艾略特,或从柏拉图到T。A。理查兹,或者其他20世纪初的重要人物。
That is a course that I like to teach, too; usually I teach Plato to T.S. Eliot or Plato to I.A. Richards or some other important figure in the early twentieth century.
我的一个朋友一度因为性功能障碍一蹶不振,我因此开办了一个柏拉图交友网站(platonicpartners.co.uk)。
I started a platonic dating website (platonicpartners.co.uk) after a friend of mine got very depressed because he was becoming impotent;
如果一个或多或少,有点圆的盘子能让我想到正圆,柏拉图认为,我必须已经见过完美的圆本身了。
In order for a more or less round plate to remind me of roundness, Plato says, I have to have already met perfect roundness itself.
因此,我认为它足够被肯定,对于柏拉图本人。是他以阿珀洛得罗斯的名义说话,保撒尼亚斯的论述,确实是某件可笑的事。
Therefore I think it is sufficiently affirmed that for Plato himself, in so far as it he is who speaks here under the name of Apollodoros, the discourse of Pausanias is indeed something derisory.
现在我想修一门必须研读柏拉图、亚里斯·多德、休谟、斯宾诺莎、洛克、约翰·杜威和其他伟大思想家的课程。
I'd like to take a course in which I actually had to read Plato, Aristotle, Hume, Spinoza, Locke, John Dewey and the other great thinkers.
我现在说的都是各种猜想,但从另一个角度看, 一个古老的角度,这是由柏拉图提出的,他认为笑是一种巩固感情的形式,对抗共同的敌人。
These are sort of flailing away at different ideas but another way of doing--an older way is proposed by Plato, who viewed laughter as a form of bonding against a common enemy.
我来解释吧。柏拉图因其“形式”和“理念”而闻名,指代我们周围事物的原本。
Let me explain. Plato is famous for his Forms or Ideas, that refer to the archetypical versions of the things around us.
鲁迅说,“柏拉图的恋爱论我是能看、能言,却不能行“。
"Plato of be in love theory I is ability see, ability speech, but can't line" Lu is fast to say, .
柏拉图:我在二千三百五十七年前去世,我和你做了同样的事情。
Plato: I died 2357 years ago and I've been doing much the same thing.
柏拉图:我在二千三百五十七年前去世,我和你做了同样的事情。
Plato: I died 2357 years ago and I've been doing much the same thing.
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