Now, if you ask me right now if I would rather experience intense pleasure or have a full lifetime of higher pleasure, I would consider intense pleasure to be low pleasure.

现在你要是问，我是要体验强烈的快感,还是一辈子的高级快乐，我把强烈快感看作低级快乐。

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But over a lifetime, I think I would think almost a complete majority here would agree that they would rather be a human with higher pleasure than be that rat with intense pleasure for a momentary period of time.

但是就一生而言,我觉得，在场绝大部分人都会同意,他们更愿意做拥有更高级快乐的人,而不是只图一时快乐，做那只享受一时快感的鼠。

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If you put the electrode in just the right place, then when the electrode gets turned on, it stimulates the pleasure center in the rat's brain and it gets a little burst of pleasure, a pretty intense burst of pleasure.

只要把电极放对地方，然后启动电极，刺激老鼠大脑的快乐中枢,老鼠感受到一股快感，一股很强烈的快感。

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