Mr Johnes is an old Stick-in-the-mud: you'll never persuade him to change at all.

琼斯先生是一个墨守成规的人：你们根本无法说服他有所居改变。

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She wasn't, as Dr Martin Johnes points out, always unpopular, nor was she by any means universally unpopular in Wales.

BBC: Yes for Wales or no to Thatcherism?

Administrative devolution continued throughout the 1980s and 1990s to the extent that Martin Johnes of Swansea University has ventured the idea of "the emergence of a Welsh state".

BBC: Margaret Thatcher: Her contested legacy in Wales

As today's tributes have confirmed she was certainly a divisive prime minister, both revered and despised, but as Martin Johnes has written she was not universally loathed across Wales.

BBC: An hour with Maggie; Thatcher and Wales