Tom Holladay is a teaching pastor at Saddleback Church.

汤姆·霍拉迪是马鞍峰教会的教学牧师。

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Just as I'm the minister of Saddleback church, you're a minister of a church — at your workplace.

就像我是马鞍峰教会牧师，你也是一个教堂的牧师-那个教堂就是你的工作场所。

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Tom Holladay is a teaching pastor at Saddleback Church and author of The Relationship Principles of Jesus.

Tom Holladay 是Saddleback教堂的宣教士以及《基督的人际关系原则》一书的作者。

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Pastor Rick Warren , who founded Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif.

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Warren--in 1980 and from scratch--launched Saddleback Church in Orange County, Calif.

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