当卡伦?奥图扎拉想对儿子正在讲述的事情进行补充时，她会握住儿子的手说：“不好意思，约瑟夫。 如果你不介意的话，我想补充几句。”
When Mrs Altuzarra wants to add to a story her son is telling, she will lay her hand on his and say: "Excuse me, Joseph, if you don't mind I'd like to add something".
当设计师约瑟夫?奥图扎拉（Joseph Al tu zarra）还是个小男孩时，母亲卡伦（Karen Altu zarra）就允许他和他弟弟查尔斯（Charles Al tu zarra）自己做选择。
When designer Joseph Al tu zarra was a young boy his mother allowed him and his younger brother Charles choices.
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