Luis Urzua, a 54-year-old shift foreman, has emerged as the DE facto leader of the miners ...

路易斯·乌尔·祖阿，一名54岁的值班长，作为实际上矿工们的领导者走入了人们的视线。

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"We never talked about that but when everything passed, it became a joke, " Urzua says.

CNN: Chilean miners waited for death

After that, Urzua says the key became making democratic decisions under trying circumstances.

CNN: Chilean miners waited for death

Luis Urzua, the shift foreman, gave his men the bad news straight.

CNN: Chilean miners waited for death