Hsieh told USA Today that one of his favorite books is "Tribal Leadership Leveraging Natural Groups to Build a Thriving Organization" by Dave Logan, John King and Halee Fischer Wright.

谢家华告诉《今日美国》，在他最喜欢的书中，有一本书叫作《部落领导力》。 这本书是由戴夫·罗根，约翰·金，海立·费舍·赖特共同编著的。

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Logan and his colleagues and co-authors John King and Halee Fischer-Wright are not simply about culture.

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In a study of 24, 000 people published in 2008 in Tribal Leadership, John King, Halee-Fischer-Wright and I found that 25 percent of workplace cultures are as stupid as our worst TSA experiences.

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