And I'm not just talking about having it on paper.

而且，我并不只是在探讨用纸记录。

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While he was talking to his secretary, he toyed with a piece of paper.

他一面跟他的秘书谈话，一面手里摆弄着一张纸。

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While he was talking to his secretary, he toyed with a piece of paper.

他一面跟他的秘书谈话，一面手里摆弄着一张纸。

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