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He says that people who put forward views like this and at any rate harmony can certainly be destroyed.
他说提出有人,提出类似这种观点,和声当然可以毁灭。
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All that Simmias needs to cause problems for Socrates' argument is the claim that harmony is invisible and harmony can be destroyed.
西米亚斯为苏格拉底的论证,带来问题的只需要是,和声是无形的,但是可以毁灭。
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If one chord holds twice as long or only half as long, then we have an irregular harmonic change--irregular rate of harmonic change.
如果某一个和弦持续的时间是其他和弦的两倍或者只有一半，这就是不规则的和声改变。
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Even if we were to say you know what, the mind is not much like harmony at all.
即使我们说，知道么，精神和和声一点也不一样。
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The first three or four weeks or so we'll be following the elements of music: rhythm, melody and harmony-- and then a test.
开始的三或四周,我们会逐个介绍,音乐中的元素,节奏,旋律,和声,然后有一个考试
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Harmony is indeed invisible in sense Number 1, you cannot see it with your eyes, but for all that, it can be destroyed.
和声用无形的第一种解读方式理解，确实是无形的，你看不见它，但是它可以毁灭。
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Is this metaphor, think about the relationship between the mind and the body as similar to the relationship between harmony and a harp.
思考思想和身体的关系,是否和这个比喻里,和声和竖琴的关系相同。
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Socrates instead spends some time worrying about the question: is the soul really like harmony or not?
取而代之的是花时间,研究一个问题：,即灵魂是不是真的像和声一样？
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Now noticed if that's the way we interpret his argument, harmony works no longer as a counterexample.
注意到如果这是,我们解读他论点的方式，和声就不再一个反例了。
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it's dependent just the same way that well, for example, harmony is denpendent upon the physical instrument.
依赖的方式同,举个例子,和声依赖物质的乐器是一个道理。
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He should have said that you know what, harmony is not really invisible or can't be destroyed.
他应该说，知道么，和声并不是真的无形,并不是不可毁灭。
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We want to figure out if the harmony is changing, and if it is changing whether it's changing at a regular or irregular rate.
一是判断和声是否发生了变化，二是如果发生了变化，和声的变化频率是规则还是不规则的。
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So the crucial point right now is that, thinking about harmony is offered as a counterexample to the generalization that invisible things can't be destroyed.
所以现在的重要问题是，和声的例子现在作为,灵魂不可毁灭,这一概括说法的反例。
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But first let's worry about the point that I was emphasizing earlier, namely, even if the soul is not very much like harmony, so what?
但首先让我们探讨一下,我之前强调的那一点，那就是即使灵魂和和声大为不同，那又如何？
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So the whole piece,then,would be a piece involving irregular rate of change-- the entire piece.
所以整首歌曲中和声都有不规则的改变-,整首歌曲都是。
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So the harmony analogy is I think an attempt, and not a bad attempt, at gesturing towards the question how do physicalists think about the mind.
所以我认为和声的类比是个尝试，而且是不错的尝试,尝试解读物理学家如何思考精神。
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He says this is a very nice example for us to think about because some people have suggested, Simmias says, that the mind is like harmony.
这是个很好的例子供我们思考,因为西米亚斯说,一些人推测,精神就像和声一样。
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If we have to sing a different pitch, then probably the harmony has changed.
如果觉得自己需要变调，那么和声就很可能已经改变了。
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By regular rate we mean that the amount of time that each chord holds is exactly the same; every chord holds for the same length of time.
如果变化频率规则，那么和声中每个和弦持续的时间长度是完全相同的;,每个和弦都持续同样长的时间。
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Socrates never says Simmias, here's what your objection goes wrong: harmony is not really invisible or can't be destroyed, whatever it is, so we don't have a counterexample.
苏格拉底从没说过，西米亚斯,你的观点在这里有错,和声并非无形或者不可毁灭，所以我们没有了反例。
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I started by saying, "Could you come up with any kind of-- well,you tell me in fifty words or less what I said in lecture yesterday about harmony.
我是这样开头的，你们能够想起任何-,好吧，你们用五十个以内单词告诉我在昨天的课上我就和声问题说了些什么。
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Now I am going to take some time to think about whether or not harmony is a good analogy, because I actually think it is a good analogy.
现在我要花点时间思考,和声是不是个好的类比，因为实际上我觉得它是个好的类比。
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Harmony was invisible when we mean definition No. 1- can't be seen.
我们取第一种定义的时候,和声是无形因为它是看不见的。
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He's talking about the harmony that gets produced by a stringed instrument.
他谈到和声通过,弦乐器演奏出来。
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We have basically harmony but it has a simple rhythm to it.
是基本的和声,不过这只是一个简单的节奏
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Can you come up with a visual image of how harmony works?
你们能想出和声运作的视觉影像吗？
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Harmony is to the harp as the mind is to the body.
和声对于竖琴就像精神对于身体。
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It's as though the mind is like harmony of the body.
好像精神,就是身体的和声一样。
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So if what Socrates means by invisibility is the first notion: can't be seen with your eyes, then the argument is not any good, harmony is a pretty compelling counterexample.
所以如果苏格拉底说的无形,是第一个意思：，眼睛看不见，这个论证就不好，和声是个很有说服力的反例。
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How do we hear harmony?What are we listening for again?
我们要怎么听和声？，我们应该重点听什么？
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