So the pessimistic view...My read on it is almost as if you're saying that, "you don't want to grow up, you don't want to learn the rules of filmmaking or society. If you can maintain your innocence, you're sort of never die. You'll never have regret."

因此关于悲观主义观点，我的解读是,似乎你在说，你不想成长，你不想学电影的拍摄方法以及社会规则,如果你能够保持纯真，你就用不会逝去，你也不会有遗憾“

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Don't seem to impose, don't seek to impose your own high-minded innocence, sometimes called justice, your own high-minded innocence on the requirements of statecraft because it will only lead to ruin.

不要似乎去强加，不要试图去强加,把你高尚的纯真，有时候被称作正义，你自以为的高尚纯真强加到管理国家的,必要条件上去因为它只会导致毁灭。

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You have to learn, in other words, how to get your hands dirty. Between the innocence of the Christian and the worldliness of Machiavelli's new morality, there can be no reconciliation.

换句话说，你必须学会如何弄污你的手,在基督教的纯洁观与,马基雅维利新道德中的世俗观之间,没有任何回旋的余地。

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