Now, why the Fat Lady? It's this mythical, incredibly humanly embodied-- whenever you see a fat lady in a novel, one of the first things you want to ask is: why does that person need to be excessively embodied?

现在，为什么是胖太太，这是个神话，人们呈现了，无论你什么时候看到一个胖太太,在小说里，你首先会想问：,为什么那个人需要被这样过多的描写呢？

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I don't think that's a very good reason because you choose to- either way you have to choose who dies because you either choose to turn and kill the person, which is an act of conscious thought to turn, or you choose to push the fat man over which is also an active, conscious action.

我认为这不是一个很好的理由,因为不论哪种情况，你都得选择让谁死,或者你是选择转弯撞死一名工人，这种转弯就是种有意识的行为，或者你是选择把胖子推下去,这同样是一种主动的，有意识的行为。

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