The 32-year-old Saberi, who has worked for National Public Radio and the BBC,was jailed in January,allegedly because her press credentials had expired, before being convicted last month of "spying for the United States" in what many are calling a sham-trial.

VOA: standard.2009.05.06

Is the soul invisible in the way that the forms are, being indestructable, or is it invisible in the way that radio waves are, destructible.

灵魂的无形,是和形式的无形一样不可毁灭，还是和无线电波的无形一样,是可以毁灭的。

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Yesterday, on M.L. King Day, I had the privilege of being on at least four radio programs about this new book I have out called A Slave No More, some of them quite terrific.

昨天是马丁·路德·金的纪念日,我有幸被超过四家电台的问答节目邀请去,介绍我最新出版的一本书《无奴之国》,有些问题很有深度

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It seems to me that some things are invisible in the relevant sense, radio waves being an example of that, can be destroyed, so even though the soul is also invisible in the relevant sense, maybe it can be destroyed as well.

我认为一些东西是无形的,在相关的意义上讲，这些无形的东西可以毁灭，无线电波就是个例子，所以即使灵魂同样是无形的,根据相关的定义，但可能它也可以毁灭。

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