I don't think you can really escape that." "I don't think you could escape it in real life if it was really happening to you.

VOA: standard.2010.05.04

This idea that I don't really care, or that I don't really think I can come to terms with the actual meaning of an entity as that entity, is instrumentalizing the entity.

我不在乎，或不接受这个观点,它认为一个实体作为实体的意义，在于使实体工具化。

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